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DOC Orcia – Podere Forte, DOC Orcia – Podere Forte or Morellino di Scansano DOCG – Fattoria dei Barbi?

Three wines compared criterion by criterion with the editorial rating, the recorded price and the amenities. Verdict written by the code, based on the editorial team's justifications.

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DOC Orcia – Podere Forte

Podere Forte · More than €120

7,4
GoodHidden Tuscany Rating
reliability medium

341,97 € 407,27 €

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DOC Orcia – Podere Forte

Podere Forte · More than €120

7,6
GoodHidden Tuscany Rating
reliability high

171,67 € 221,13 €

Our verdict
C

Morellino di Scansano DOCG – Fattoria dei Barbi

Fattoria dei Barbi · Under €15

8,2
Very goodHidden Tuscany Rating
reliability medium

7,81 € 9,26 €

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The verdict

Morellino di Scansano DOCG – Fattoria dei Barbi takes the lead

Morellino di Scansano DOCG – Fattoria dei Barbi scores 8,2/10, ahead of DOC Orcia – Podere Forte (7,6) et DOC Orcia – Podere Forte (7,4). Morellino di Scansano DOCG 2022 from Fattoria dei Barbi, Sangiovese from Scansano, distinguished by 3 viti and James Suckling 90 and sold for €7.81. Reservation: aged at least one year, without total duration or organic farming specified.

Choose DOC Orcia – Podere Forte if…

  • DOC Orcia pure Sangiovese from Podere Forte, in Val d'Orcia, 2019 vintage, with 3 viti and 5 Bibenda grappoli and 12 to 18 months of barrel aging

Its weak point in this head-to-head: rapport qualité/prix (6,3). At €170.99 for 75 cl for a simple DOC, the price exceeds the rank described despite the 1.5 L format and the crossed-out price.

Choose DOC Orcia – Podere Forte if…

  • you prioritise producteur & vinification (8,6 vs 7,8) : Podere Forte named and located in the Val d'Orcia, fermentation in steel, 12-month aging in wood, organic mentioned.

Its weak point in this head-to-head: rapport qualité/prix (6,3). €171.67 for a non-riserva DOC Orcia, despite a crossed-out price of €221.13: high for this rank.

Choose Morellino di Scansano DOCG – Fattoria dei Barbi if…

  • you want the safest value in the duel: best overall score (8,2), level with or ahead on typicité & terroir, rapport qualité/prix et polyvalence à table
  • you prioritise rapport qualité/prix (8,5 vs 6,3) : At €7.81, with a crossed-out price of €9.26, the bottle sits clearly below the usual price of a distinguished DOCG: a very favorable ratio.
  • you prioritise polyvalence à table (8,2 vs 7,4) : Precise pairings (carni rosse, arrosti, aged cheeses), red fruit profile, spices and balsamic notes, served at 16-18 °C: a versatile wine.
  • your budget matters: from €8 / btl, the lowest price in the head-to-head

Its weak point in this head-to-head: producteur & vinification (7,8). Fattoria dei Barbi named and located in Scansano; stainless steel fermentation, skin maceration and aging of at least 1 year specified, without organic mention.

Reliability medium / high : ratings based on the file of each listing, not on a stay by our team · Ratings of the 20 October 2026 · Our rating method

Criterion by criterion

The 5 criteria of the score

DOC Orcia – Podere ForteDOC Orcia – Podere ForteMorellino di Scansano DOCG –…
TypicityRecognitionValueVersatilityProducer
Typicity & terroir25 %editorial
7,8
7,8
8,4
Why these ratings?

DOC Orcia – Podere ForteDOC Orcia named, pure Sangiovese, Val d'Orcia zone in Tuscany: precise Tuscan roots, but no sub-zone or soil mentioned.

DOC Orcia – Podere ForteDOC Orcia named, Sangiovese and Val d'Orcia specified, profile of red fruits, spices and balsamic notes consistent with the appellation.

Morellino di Scansano DOCG –…Appellation DOCG named precisely, Sangiovese grape and the Scansano (Grosseto) zone in Maremma: a clear terroir anchor, coherent red fruit profile.

Recognition20 %editorial
8,2
8,2
7,8
Why these ratings?

DOC Orcia – Podere ForteThree named distinctions: 3 Viti 2015, 3 Viti AIS and 5 Grappoli Bibenda, with an identified producer, Podere Forte.

DOC Orcia – Podere ForteThree distinctions cited: 3 viti 2015, 3 viti ais and 5 grappoli Bibenda, with Podere Forte named.

Morellino di Scansano DOCG –…Several distinctions: 3 viti 2020, 3 viti AIS and James Suckling 90 (2021), without reaching the very high level of 95 points or Tre Bicchieri.

Value for money25 %editorial
6,3
6,3
8,5
Why these ratings?

DOC Orcia – Podere ForteAt €170.99 for 75 cl for a simple DOC, the price exceeds the rank described despite the 1.5 L format and the crossed-out price.

DOC Orcia – Podere Forte€171.67 for a non-riserva DOC Orcia, despite a crossed-out price of €221.13: high for this rank.

Morellino di Scansano DOCG –…At €7.81, with a crossed-out price of €9.26, the bottle sits clearly below the usual price of a distinguished DOCG: a very favorable ratio.

Versatility at the table15 %editorial
7,2
7,4
8,2
Why these ratings?

DOC Orcia – Podere FortePrecise pairings (red meats, game, aged cheeses), detailed aromatic profile and serving indicated, but no aging potential given.

DOC Orcia – Podere FortePairings with red meats and aged cheeses, aromatic profile described, serving at 16-18 °C: precise but not very varied.

Morellino di Scansano DOCG –…Precise pairings (carni rosse, arrosti, aged cheeses), red fruit profile, spices and balsamic notes, served at 16-18 °C: a versatile wine.

Producer & winemaking15 %editorial
7,6
8,6
7,8
Why these ratings?

DOC Orcia – Podere FortePodere Forte named and located in the Val d'Orcia, steel fermentation, wood aging of 12 to 18 months and organic mention.

DOC Orcia – Podere FortePodere Forte named and located in the Val d'Orcia, fermentation in steel, 12-month aging in wood, organic mentioned.

Morellino di Scansano DOCG –…Fattoria dei Barbi named and located in Scansano; stainless steel fermentation, skin maceration and aging of at least 1 year specified, without organic mention.

Features

Price, estate, grape variety, vintage

What is written on the listing. “Not specified” is not “no”.

CriterionDOC Orcia – Podere ForteDOC Orcia – Podere ForteMorellino di Scansano DOCG –…
Recorded price341,97 € 407,27 €171,67 € 221,13 €7,81 € 9,26 €
Price per 75 cl170,99 €171,67 €7,81 €
EstatePodere FortePodere ForteFattoria dei Barbi
Traveller ratingnot specifiednot specifiednot specified
Reliability of our scoremediumhighmedium
ColorRedRedRed
AreaVal d'Orcia & Mont AmiataVal d'Orcia & Mont AmiataMaremma & Montecucco
PriceMore than 120 €More than 120 €Under €15
Grape varietySangioveseSangioveseSangiovese
Vintage201920182022
EstatePodere FortePodere ForteFattoria dei Barbi
Bottle or gift boxWinesWinesWines
Originnot specifiednot specifiedMaremma wines
Organic farming Yes Yesnot specified
7,4
DOC Orcia – Podere Fortefrom €342 / btl
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7,6
DOC Orcia – Podere Fortefrom €172 / btl
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8,2
Morellino di Scansano DOCG – Fattoria dei Barbifrom €8 / btl
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